r/politics • u/One_Dahlia • 4h ago
Possible Paywall Judge Accuses Trump, Rubio, and Noem of “Unconstitutional Conspiracy”
https://newrepublic.com/post/205402/judge-trump-rubio-noem-unconstitutional-conspiracy-deportations-palestine•
u/ElysiumSprouts 4h ago
“I find it breathtaking that I have been compelled on the evidence to find the conduct of such high-level officers of our government—Cabinet secretaries—conspired to infringe the First Amendment rights of people with such rights here in the United States,” Young said, alluding to Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem and Secretary of State Marco Rubio. “These Cabinet secretaries have failed in their sworn duty to uphold the Constitution.”
As far as smack downs go, this is huge.
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u/PunishedSab 3h ago
Judicial smackdowns are fun to read but are meaningless without the entire judicial system behind them AND a method to enforce changes or punishments. We don't have either.
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u/Imakemyownnamereddit 3h ago
Yep, Republicans played a long game and made sure they took over the Supreme Court first.
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u/Downtown_Wrap6747 1h ago
Yep, and all the ones who cried on Facebook about how they’re not voting because they didn’t get their perfect unicorn pony candidates and both sides same an bad helped the cause immensely
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u/western_red_cedar 45m ago
Genuinely starting to think this asinine genre of "vote whining" comment is botted, meant to discourage and divide those actually fighting back.
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u/LunaticLucio 1h ago
Nah just the idiots who voted for him twice.
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u/Runinbearass 57m ago
If you didn’t vote you are complicit, for this I am thankful Australia has compulsory voting
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u/SchwiftySouls 48m ago
I honestly think we should, too. It is a moral and civil duty to engage with and correct your government.
"I don't do politics," while bitching about the roads.
"I don't do politics," while bitching about gas and grocery prices.
"I don't do politics," while bitching how employers take advantage of the employee.
"I don't do politics," while bitching about the school systems.
"I don't do politics," while bitching about crime rates.
Politics determine every aspect of your life from where you can travel, to what books you can read, to where you can be employed. These people are a stain on any sane, civil society.
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u/saltysstrings 28m ago
I hate the ones that "dont vote because it doesnt matter" then complain about everything. I shut em down and say "you didnt participate then so you dont get a voice now". Idgaf who you vote for (i mean i DO, but you know what I mean) as long as you exercise your right.....THE you get to vote.
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u/koticgood Washington 27m ago
If you didn’t vote you are complicit
It's not up for debate. This is simply a true statement.
In such a rigid 2 party system, where only 2 candidates ever have a chance, not voting for the other person when there is a candidate like Trump is the same as voting for Trump.
Pretending otherwise is willful ignorance.
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u/LunaticLucio 39m ago
Nope, maybe the first time Trump was running but not the second or third time. I voted but I don't put the same people in the same group.
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u/Jkavera 34m ago
yeah but you also gave us the Murdochs so in a way it's all your fault. "Get 'em, y'all!"
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u/Lurlex Utah 53m ago edited 48m ago
I want to smack my "both sides are equally bad" siblings in the face as even now, right NOW, today, in 2026, they still maintain that as the plain truth.
That their information spheres seem to all be Russian-designed for originally left-leaning audiences doesn't seem to be obvious to them. They WANT to hate both parties with equal fervor, and hate every individual in either party equally. It really does lower the amount of difficult actual attention and analysis that one must invest in, so I suppose that they save lots of mental calories that way. :-(
Imagine suddenly being relieved of the burden to judge an individual on an individual's own merits. It must seem like such a relief. Russia had a FIELD DAY when the DNC made its mistakes with Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders in 2015, and they were major player in social media to drive attitudes where they needed to be to enable a Trump win.
That was the short-sightedness of 2016 -- so desperate to punish Democrats, that they won't even address that there's a maniac with an axe over their head RIGHT THAT MOMENT that may be more of an immediate issue.
Note that Trump didn't really "win" so much as Clinton defaulted due to an inability to summon voters. He did not "convince" anyone. He enthralled those who were already primed to like what he had to say.
He didn't have a majority of Americans as "fans"; he had a majority of Americans as jaded beyond participation, which yielded the win to him by default. Zeal and belief win elections. The majority of actual Americans, most of whom laugh at Trump at the absolute best .... stayed home in their little cynical bubbles and doomed us for the following decade.
Likewise for 2024.
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u/popcornsprinkled 39m ago
Here's the thing about believing that both sides are shit. You have to have a core set of values and you have to vote with them. It's not about " Oh they both do it" it's about who's going to cause the most harm currently. Much like dealing with a concussion and an actively gushing wound, you have to triage that shit.
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u/gringledoom 2h ago
You never win a war in one go; celebrating every inch of territory won is important. When the conflict expands in scale & scope, the good feelings help propel people to do hard things. To despair and embrace cynicism is to hand powerful weapons to the enemy.
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u/KrazyA1pha 1h ago
The risk is that this is ten steps back, one step forward, and we’re all celebrating the one step forward.
I agree that we should celebrate the wins, but it’s difficult to celebrate when you’re still under water.
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u/amazinglover 56m ago
ten steps back, one step forward, and we’re all celebrating the one step forward.
Which his america has operated the last 60 plus years.
Republicans move us 10 steps back we vote in a democrat who forces use forward then we cry about the one step forward and vote back in Republicans who take us back again.
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u/MoogProg 3h ago
We can look at Lindsay Halligan as an example of how the process can work. She has been fired by court order, and the authority to appoint the new interim replacement sits with the district court. Now... they have not yet taken up a discussion of a new appointee, so that's a problem/snag/whatever. It is not a total failure or a dead end, at least.
Point is only that there are processes that exist and they are being applied.
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u/DrunkCorgis 3h ago
Lindsay Halligan is the perfect example that the processes AREN’T working.
She’s still signing court papers as a US attorney for the district:
https://www.politico.com/news/2026/01/13/lindsey-halligan-us-attorney-doj-00726362
And the DOJ is refusing to accept the court’s ruling against her.
Nothing has changed.
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u/MoogProg 2h ago
What has changed is that none of the DOJ cases under Halligan are moving forward. Her power to prosecute has been neutered.
I get that isn't satisfying because the DOJ stance is to ignore the courts, but it is important to look at the real win, and that is the DOJ isn't able to continue their malicious prosecutions with these obstacles in place.
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u/DrunkCorgis 2h ago
Yes, big-name cases were dropped, at least temporarily. But she’s still filing paperwork against opponents of this government, just targeting people who don’t have decades of FBI or legal experience to protect themselves.
Setting her sights on easier targets is not her being “neutered”.
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u/P1xelHunter78 Ohio 2h ago
Any day she’s not in jail for contempt of court is a loss for America as far as I’m concerned.
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u/occams1razor 1h ago
Well, she making the cases easy for the defense lawyers to beat
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u/Holiday-Smoke-4827 1h ago
They also haven’t dismissed her from her state bar associations
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u/illuminarok 51m ago
Texas voted to remove the bar association as an overseeing body in their state, too.
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u/earthmann 2h ago
Everything is meaningless without something or the other. It’s still good to celebrate the good stuff.
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u/thedougd 2h ago
Came here to say this. I prefer judges who rule, not comment. I would love to see more cases brought before qualified judges.
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u/gamer4life83 4h ago
It is but this administration has already shown they don't care about court orders
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u/IndependentSpecial17 3h ago
They don’t care about court orders or laws they themselves have passed. Trump had a great degree of criminality in his first go, now all restraints are off.
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u/yorkshireaus 3h ago
The current Supreme Court will find a way to disagree, if it gets there.
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u/Patman350 3h ago
Let me guess the adjectives the President will use to describe the judge. Radical, left wing, communist, Marxist, woke, Democrat, low IQ, criminal, deranged, Trump derangement syndrome judge.
Did I miss any?
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u/ReviledFoundling 3h ago
He likes to throw around the word nasty, too.
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u/InsomniaticWanderer 3h ago
Is it huge, tho?
Because if nothing happens about it (like has been the case this entire time), then I think it's just more piss in the wind.
I have less than zero faith in every single judge, every single officer, every single anything related to the law and it's enforcement.
America, THE example of freedom, should be nowhere near the authoritarian government it has fallen into. We were supposed to have a system of checks and balances to stop, not prevent, but stop Trump from doing exactly what he's doing.
That's unacceptable.
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u/ElysiumSprouts 3h ago
Absolutely unacceptable. But it's not "every single judge" at fault.
100% of ALL blame falls on Republicans. From the Senate that twice refused to remove him from office and the GOP house that keeps enabling, to the media owners masquerading propaganda as news. Not to mention the Supreme Court conservatives that had their chance at fixing things too.
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u/stonemuzzle 2h ago
The Supreme Court conservatives invented magical crime immunity in preparation for Trump, after helping him skip out on the charges for stealing US documents. They fixed everything they needed to before Trump's second term started.
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u/BadahBingBadahBoom 3h ago
America, THE example of freedom,
I mean looking back at the last 75y you do have to ask: was it? Or was that just what was repeated time and time again?
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u/SolarTsunami 3h ago
I cant believe they made me say the Pledge of Allegiance 10,000 times growing up just to ignore it themselves. Liberty and justice for all now makes me part of the lunatic left wing fringe domestic terror plot.
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u/stonemuzzle 2h ago
As a vet, I realize that was a bunch of crap invented to sucker us into volunteering, while folks who hated America sat back here and laughed at us for falling for it.
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u/ezagreb 3h ago
The justice department is now the injustice department. Homeland security is the Gestapo and the court system has been sufficiently politicized to render it largely neutered
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u/ksdanj Kansas 3h ago
I prefer to think of the DOJ as the Department of Retribution
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u/SolarTsunami 3h ago
The DoJ is his shield, the DHS is is sword, and Congress is his suit of armor. Turns out you can take all the separate branches of government and just morph them together like the Megazord from Power Rangers, who knew!
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u/voicelessechoes 3h ago
Impeachment. Quote this judge then send it to a vote. And tbh the Republican Party should be sued as a whole for dismantling democracy bankrupt Republicans and maybe their donors too.
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u/Playful_Set9711 3h ago
There is a way to hold them all accountable, article 2 section 4 of the Constitution. Unfortunately it takes a functioning Congress to invoke it.
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u/ChrisIsUninteresting Mississippi 2h ago
“These Cabinet secretaries have failed in their sworn duty to uphold the Constitution.”
Sounds to me like the judge is saying they should be impeached and removed.
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u/BegriefedOnline 1h ago
There is a conspiracy to deprive rights?
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/241
If two or more persons conspire to injure, oppress, threaten, or intimidate any person in any State, Territory, Commonwealth, Possession, or District in the free exercise or enjoyment of any right or privilege secured to him by the Constitution or laws of the United States, or because of his having so exercised the same; or
If two or more persons go in disguise on the highway, or on the premises of another, with intent to prevent or hinder his free exercise or enjoyment of any right or privilege so secured—
They shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both; and if death results from the acts committed in violation of this section or if such acts include kidnapping or an attempt to kidnap, aggravated sexual abuse or an attempt to commit aggravated sexual abuse, or an attempt to kill, they shall be fined under this title or imprisoned for any term of years or for life, or both, or may be sentenced to death.
(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 696; Pub. L. 90–284, title I, § 103(a), Apr. 11, 1968, 82 Stat. 75; Pub. L. 100–690, title VII, § 7018(a), (b)(1), Nov. 18, 1988, 102 Stat. 4396; Pub. L. 103–322, title VI, § 60006(a), title XXXII, §§ 320103(a), 320201(a), title XXXIII, § 330016(1)(L), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 1970, 2109, 2113, 2147; Pub. L. 104–294, title VI, §§ 604(b)(14)(A), 607(a), Oct. 11, 1996, 110 Stat. 3507, 3511.)
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u/Eddiebaby7 3h ago
Might as well be YouTube clickbait: BREAKING - Judge Destroys Marco Rubio and Kristi Noem in Blistering Ruling!
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u/Fearless_Split_573 2h ago
This is not huge. This means literally nothing. This judge will be replaced, several $100k of resources will be pointed at harassing and attacking their family and friends, and that will be that.
Why do people still think that courts waving meaningless pieces of paper mean anything anymore???
It's like we think a piece of paper with strong fancy words stops literal bullets from guns.
Like if only the psychotic ice officer had known judges said it was illegal to murder a woman in her car, then that bullet would have been fired and magically caught in the air by the legal force, the 5th force of the universe.
You are soooo far behind the times right now if you think a judge saying words means anything. The time for judges was 5+ years ago. Wait til you figure out we aren't having elections, like; " oh but this judge said we could so all the paramilitary sociopaths who think they are fighting a holy war on behalf of white Jesus Christ will just see those words on paper and pack it all up and head home with their heads hung!! Don't worry! A JUDGE SAID SO!"
We're so cooked, people still don't get what is happening.
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u/Mixer-3007 4h ago edited 3h ago
“I’ve asked myself why—how did this happen?" U.S. District Judge William Young, who was appointed by President Ronald Reagan in 1985
well its all started with Reagan...
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u/Prestigious-Car-4877 Canada 3h ago
Nixon
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u/Stillwater215 2h ago
America has a long history of failing to hold leaders accountable. The leaders of the Confederacy should have been jailed. Johnson should have been impeached and jailed for his sabotage of Reconstruction. Nixon should not have been pardoned. Reagan should have been held accountable for Iran-Contra. And Trump should have been held responsible for January 6th and the conspiracy to overturn the 2020 election. The history of America has so far said “if you have sufficient power and influence, the laws don’t apply to you.”
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u/Lurking_nerd California 1h ago
This is the pattern of behavior that has led us to this current shitshow.
Until the US does the bare minimum and hold traitors and criminals at the highest levels of power accountable, there will be no chance of redemption.
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u/dern_the_hermit 11m ago
A whole lot comes down to evangelicals uniting under a common politicized banner to oppose civil rights.
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u/RatofDeath California 1h ago
This judge has been appointed for as long as I've been alive. And I feel insanely old. That seems insane to me. The judge is part of the problem, but good for him for speaking out.
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u/Anxious-Connection98 4h ago
I cannot help thinking that Rubio really did throw away his political future by associating himself with this administration.
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u/PaxDramaticus 4h ago
Hard agree. In fact, the same could really be said of anyone who associated themself with this administration. The only difference is that Rubio used to have a potential career outside of associating himself with this administration.
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u/Anxious-Connection98 4h ago
Oh yes, but I always thought that he actually had a real future. Most of the other Trump cabinet members are just sycophants
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u/Newscast_Now 4h ago
I don't get this notion that Marco Rubio is not one of the worst of the worst. I've been watching this guy since 2010 and he always was that.
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u/altogethernow 3h ago
He was always terrible, but "standard-issue conservative" terrible. He could make vile policies seem sensible, looked decent in a suit, kind of handsome. Helped that he had heritage (remember the republican "autopsy" after 2012? When they all decided to be less racist?).
It wasn't too wild to predict he had another serious presidential run ahead of him. I don't think so anymore.
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u/Anxious-Connection98 4h ago
Well, you can think that. I will not blame you. We have different sensitivities according to our political views. I did not say that I liked him. I said that he had a political future and I cannot understand how he did not realize that joining the Trump administration would put that in jeopardy. He is not stupid, i belive he is more or less smarter than the average US politcian and yet he failed to see that comming.
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u/Alusan Europe 3h ago
My speculative theory is that he thought, if he is the only intelligent person in the room, he could direct the hoople heads.
Maybe its as simple as Trump was the only real rising force on the right wing.
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u/slothcough 3h ago
To be honest, given the way all of them are acting it looks like it was a gamble. He joined because he understood the intention of project 2025 was to dismantle American democracy and never hold elections again. If you're Marco Rubio and believe that these fucks can do it, your political future doesn't matter because you will never be out of power again.
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u/Alusan Europe 3h ago
Could be. Also fits with Vance. I mean he literally called Trump America's Hitler. Why would anyone be Hitler's deputy? Because he doesn't have a shred of morals and being Hitler's deputy is better than being a nobody who badmouthed Hitler.
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u/AntoniaFauci 1h ago
Vance has always been a sociopath too.
His one and only “job” he defrauded employees and investors in a stock market scam company, facilitated by Peter Thiel.
His novel was fraudulent too.
Mark my words, we have many instances of pure evil still to come when Vance succeeds Trump. And due to his age and greasiness, he’ll be harder to discount. Vance doesn’t have a 50 year record of draft dodging and rape and commercial crime. Useless Media has been giving him a false veneer of legitimacy for years, so that fraudulent fiction will be considered his identity.
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u/rainshowers_5_peace 2h ago
It's a very low bar. I don't think any other Republican would go to a town hall debate about gun violence.
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u/ProfessionalITShark 1h ago
He's peak neoconservative, Trump, especially first term Trump, pretty much murdered neoconservatism and buried, because neoconservatism, while definitely terrible for the American people, has not been great for the Russians.
This go around it seems his a bit equally controlled by Russians, Israel, techbros, and old school neocons. So he engages in this that conflicts with one of them at any given time.
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u/NoIncrease299 Nevada 3h ago
He was never winning any election outside of Florida after that disaster of a SOTU response.
Probably why he took this gig.
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u/Fallouttgrrl 4h ago
Marco Rubio left a real future to be part of the second term of this mess
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u/SlumdogSkillionaire 4h ago
99 senators voted to confirm Marco Rubio because they believed he knew what he was doing.
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u/mimicthefrench 2h ago
I imagine a lot of them voted to confirm because they knew whatever ghoul Trump would nominate if he got canned would be 10x worse.
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u/shadrackandthemandem 3h ago
That assumes that the United States has any more peaceful transitions of power left in it, which at this point is a big assumption.
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u/aradraugfea 4h ago
And he knows it. Look at his face any time he’s forced to deal with the morons. If he’s not actively disassociating, he looks like a more pathetic version of that one painting of the Jester
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u/acostane Georgia 3h ago
I think he fucking knows what he's done. Somewhere in there are the last vestiges of a soul.
He's hoping this doesn't fall apart and he escapes punishment.
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u/Playful_Set9711 3h ago
Rubio would gain more respect if he walked away and got congress to remove trump. Won't happen but nothing else is going to save his political career when this is over.
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u/acostane Georgia 1h ago
Some of these people could go down in history as heroes for stopping this regime...for walking away and telling the truth and taking him down.
You have to wonder what keeps them from doing that. Like... they all have these massive fucking egos. Why are they so scared?? What kind of blackmail is out there? Or what future do they know of where this is the BETTER option?
Always makes me wonder. Rubio looks fucking miserable. A bunch of them have called trump a Hitler, a nightmare, the worst person ever, a psycho, a dry drunk, and on and on. Now they're working for him.
The morality and ethics of these people are in hell!
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u/alinroc 1h ago
for walking away and telling the truth and taking him down.
How many people "walked away" (or were fired), then wrote books and went on TV during/after Trump's first term "telling the truth"? And it did nothing to "take him down." What does it take?
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u/AntoniaFauci 1h ago
Don’t project humanity on Rubio that he does not possess.
This is the guy illegally ordering murders, kidnappings, torture, etc. He lies pathologically. He’s not some nice guy trapped in an awkward situation at work.
This kind of sanewashing got us here.
Have people not learned from hundreds of these false projections? Oh, just wait, pence is gonna flip. Kellyanne ks gonna flip. Meadows is gonna flip. Melania is actually a decent human being in disguise, she’s gonna flip. The generals are all gonna flip. The list of evil ghouls that wishful people think can’t possibly be as evil as they appear is endless. Spoiler: they’re not changing. They’re evil.
Had thousands of violent insurrections. We’d only convicted 1600 but there were many more.
Out of that number, exactly one person has stepped back, cracked open a newspaper, realized they were in a cult and disavowed it. One. One single person. A grandmother.
The other 99.9995% have not and never will.
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u/Made_Human_Music 4h ago
Perhaps, but he’ll always have a place at Fox “news” or one of the many other right wing propaganda machines
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u/Setsune_W 3h ago
He's also apparently doing hard drugs to cope. That press conference he did a few weeks ago in that PBS News video is still shocking.
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u/Anxious-Connection98 3h ago
I missed that, any link you can give me ?
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u/Setsune_W 2h ago
Here's one of the clips: https://www.reddit.com/r/CringeTikToks/comments/1pt51tp/rubio_looks_completely_blasted/
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u/ElephantRider Oregon 9m ago
The WH pharmacy was handing out hard drugs to everyone during trump's first admin, apparently nothing changed.
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u/pingpongballreader 3h ago
If American decides to ONLY punish down to Rubio, were screwed.
EVERYONE who supported or fell in line and appeased Trump or bent the knee needs to be tainted forever.
The billionaires pretty much all buddied up to trumpism. That's all the proof America should need that every billionaire is a policy failure and national security threat.
We need a nationwide wealth tax. Billionaires are stupid and evil.
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u/Comrade_Molly 3h ago
Any Republican who avoided him or criticized him will come out smelling like roses when it's all over, despite holding basically the same positions. Look at how people view Romney or GWB in retrospect, when GWB did half this shit himself, he just had decorum despite the folksy idiot routine.
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u/WhyAmINotStudying 3h ago
He did and fuck him for it. Fuck all of them.
He didn't throw away his career. He's betting on MAGA being the winner in the long term.
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u/supercali45 3h ago
Short term gains .. he will ride off with generational money by being a traitor and he is betting nothing will happen to him
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u/Bjens Foreign 3h ago
The way Trump and Chris Christie crushed him in 2016 has any of that stuck? Or is swearing fealty to Maga pretty much all you need to get a clean slate.
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u/Nick_crawler 2h ago
MAGA likes when a former critic of Trump becomes his lapdog, it's a sign of victory over an opponent. They'll chuck Rubio aside as soon as he's outlived his usefulness, but they don't mind him sitting to the side and clapping along like a trained seal.
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u/nosayso 3h ago
I think he was at his peak. He was in 3rd place in delegates and 4th place in votes in 2016 (behind Trump, Ted Cruz, and for votes John Kasich). He was never going to be president. And Republicans really just forgive whatever, I have no doubt he could run for Senate or Governor in Florida after the Trump administration ends and still win.
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u/Ninevehenian 2h ago
He will be fucked if there is a future where he doesn't play a part in controlling it.
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u/Vraver04 2h ago
Rubio’s future was always this. He is a coward and completely directionless. His only political move is to suck up.
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u/AntoniaFauci 1h ago
People think that because Rubio has a baby face and tiny hands that’s he’s a “moderate” conservative.
Don’t sanewash him. He has illegally ordered black bag kidnappings of innocent people. He has illegally ordered police brutality. He has illegally trafficked innocent people to foreign torture sites.
He lies constantly and pathologically.
If any official in any other country than America did this, we’d correctly assess them to be a murderous thug.
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u/BKlounge93 3h ago
Did he though? He was supposedly a bit more moderate in 2016 and fell flat on his face. I don’t think the gop is gonna nominate anyone like that again soon. I think hitching his wagon to maga is his Hail Mary. You can tell he’s uncomfortable every time he’s on camera lmao.
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u/Anxious-Connection98 2h ago
Yes i can feel it too. Part of me think he deserve it for failing to see that comming. Part of me think it is a waste.
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u/BentoBiblio 4h ago
Judges don’t just say “unconstitutional conspiracy” lightly. This is one of those moments where you suddenly realize how much legal wording matters.
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u/iwishiwasamoose 3h ago
You mean, not at all? They don't care. They ignore any court ruling that they disagree with. Checks and balances are dead. This has the same weight as a strongly worded letter.
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u/PuffPuffFayeFaye 2h ago
Boy I sure do enjoy seeing 10 versions of this exact same comment every day for a year.
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u/Lurking_nerd California 1h ago
For the past few years it’s been “Trump can’t do that. It’s unconstitutional.”
“Okay he did it and pretty much admitted it. Our justice system will get him.”
Insert multiple “If you aim at the king, don’t miss” comments and “iT’s mUeLLeR tImE!”
“He led an insurrection. There’s no getting out of this one!”
Fast forward to here and yea, you’re gonna see comments stating the reality of the situation.
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u/ProfSpaceTime 2h ago
Exactly. What folks are failing to realize is that checks and balances only work when you have enforcement. Without boots on the ground there is nothing but empty words, no court holds power over our president anymore
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u/bogglingsnog 1h ago
It's a Brawndo moment. As in, the point in Idiocracy where Brawndo bought out the entire government.
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u/Worduptothebirdup 1h ago
Until there are consequences, (beyond another payout from taxpayer dollars), the words might mean something to us, but they mean absolutely nothing to those that committed these atrocities. They will just commit them again in slightly different ways.
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u/Quasigriz_ Colorado 3h ago
A Reagan-appointed federal judge says the Trump administration’s targeting of pro-Palestinian activists is an “unconstitutional conspiracy.”
U.S. District Judge William Young, who was appointed by President Ronald Reagan in 1985, criticized Trump’s draconian crackdown on people like Mahmoud Khalil and Rümeysa Öztürk, whose only crimes were being vocal supporters of Palestine, while announcing his plans to issue an order to prevent those kinds of targeted deportations from happening again.
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Young even compared the administration’s larger deportation policy to people catching and returning enslaved African Americans under the Fugitive Slave Act of 1850.
“I’ve asked myself why—how did this happen? How could our own government, the highest officials in our government, seek to infringe the rights of people lawfully here in the United States? And I’ve come to believe that there’s a concept of freedom here that I don’t understand,” he said at the same hearing. “The record in this case convinces me that these high officials, and I include the president of the United States, have a fearful view of freedom.”
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“We cast around the word ‘authoritarian,’” he said. “I don’t, in this context, treat that in a pejorative sense, and I use it carefully, but it’s fairly clear that this president believes, as an authoritarian, that when he speaks, everyone, everyone in Article II is going to toe the line absolutely.”
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u/milmand 2h ago
Powerful writing. "A fearful view of freedom" should be the title of a historical book about all this.
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u/350 I voted 1h ago
He also makes the correct comparison to slave catchers. For a Reagan appointee, his understanding of historical parallels is on.
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u/Embarrassed-Crazy112 Georgia 3h ago
Your reminder that Rubio is here because of a unanimous confirmation in the senate.
Not a single no vote - even for the sake of meaningless symbolism.
They all knew everyone they confirmed would be nothing but a toady.
And they did it anyway.
Because what's happening is a class war masquerading as a culture war to keep us all divided while they literally steal our fucking money and future. Again.
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u/DrMobius0 2h ago
To be fair, look at the rest of the clown show. The bar is deep below the earth's crust at this point.
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u/HeySeussCristo 1h ago
He's a congressperson, AKA "one of their own." We need to clean house (not THE House, the entire Congress) but I'm not sure how that's possible. We've gone from "For the People" to "For the Profit." It can't be a smattering of good people, it needs to be an overwhelming procession. The two party system is broken. George Washington warned us.
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u/InsomniaticWanderer 4h ago
Yeah. There was an unconstitutional conspiracy back in 2021 on January 6th too.
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u/Farabee 1h ago
THe US Military could have responded to J6 in an appropriate way as it should to high-treason enemies of the state. They didn't.
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u/BethanyHipsEnjoyer I voted 48m ago
So far we have had 1 (one) fucking person try and fix trump's unfathomable injustice these last 9 years, AND HE MISSED.
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u/cfalnevermore 4h ago
This will definitely lead to action …
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u/ZombiePartyBoyLives I voted 3h ago
The judge being investigated by the DOJ? The IRS?
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u/cfalnevermore 3h ago
Fair point. I’ll amend. “This will totally lead to action against those responsible…”
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u/16ozbuddz 3h ago
As much as it might hurt democrats in the future (maybe) you have to go after every person that had a big hand in allowing this administration to skirt the law.
It's sad what people will do through fear or for a dollar
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u/Agreeable_Crow789 4h ago
They are certainly conspiring against the constitution. I didn’t know that was a question
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u/FinancialSand3703 2h ago
They've been pretty fucking blatant about all this shit. Had a literal manifesto that the VICE FUCKING PRESIDENT had a forword on. Along with a good few of his cabinet. At the Republican National Committee in 2024 they literally said they want to Dismantle Democracy. They've been loud about everything that's happening and WILL happen.
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u/SN8KEATR 2h ago
I’ve asked myself why—how did this happen? How could our own government, the highest officials in our government, seek to infringe the rights of people lawfully here in the United States? And I’ve come to believe that there’s a concept of freedom here that I don’t understand,” he said at the same hearing. “The record in this case convinces me that these high officials, and I include the president of the United States, have a fearful view of freedom.”
“We cast around the word ‘authoritarian,’” he said. “I don’t, in this context, treat that in a pejorative sense, and I use it carefully, but it’s fairly clear that this president believes, as an authoritarian, that when he speaks, everyone, everyone in Article II is going to toe the line absolutely.”
That's fuckin crazy. Federal judge accurately calling shit for what it is. What a read
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u/PretzelProf 3h ago
It’s always wild to me how these high-profile political cases dominate the news, but half the public has no clue what the law actually says.
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u/Silent-Resort-3076 America 31m ago
U.S. District Judge William Young, who was appointed by President Ronald Reagan in 1985, criticized Trump’s draconian crackdown on people like Mahmoud Khalil and Rümeysa Öztürk, whose only crimes were being vocal supporters of Palestine, while announcing his plans to issue an order to prevent those kinds of targeted deportations from happening again...
Young plans on releasing a formal ruling sometime next week.
“We cast around the word ‘authoritarian,’” he said. “I don’t, in this context, treat that in a pejorative sense, and I use it carefully, but it’s fairly clear that this president believes, as an authoritarian, that when he speaks, everyone, everyone in Article II is going to toe the line absolutely.”
Great and about time!
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u/BKWhitty 2h ago
Gee, what makes you suspect such a thing? Is it all the unconstitutional actions they're sanctioning in broad daylight for all to see?
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u/once_again_asking California 2h ago
And when Trump, Rubio, and Noem face no consequences whatsoever from this judge, what will happen then? Things will continue as they are, corruptly and illegally.
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u/spaceguitar Georgia 1h ago
It took a Reagan-appointed Judge to FUCKING SAY THE THING WE'RE BEGGING FOR OUR JUDGES AND POLITICIANS TO DECLARE OUT LOUD AND ON THE RECORD!!
Now, let's see if this has any significant ripple effect. Donnie might whine about it and get MAGA to send death threats.
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u/MiamiPower 42m ago
A federal judge says the Trump administration was violating the Constitution with its targeted deportations of pro-Palestine activists and academics.
“I find it breathtaking that I have been compelled on the evidence to find the conduct of such high-level officers of our government—Cabinet secretaries—conspired to infringe the First Amendment rights of people with such rights here in the United States,” Young said, alluding to Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem and Secretary of State Marco Rubio. “These Cabinet secretaries have failed in their sworn duty to uphold the Constitution.”
Young even compared the administration’s larger deportation policy to people catching and returning enslaved African Americans under the Fugitive Slave Act of 1850.
“I’ve asked myself why—how did this happen? How could our own government, the highest officials in our government, seek to infringe the rights of people lawfully here in the United States? And I’ve come to believe that there’s a concept of freedom here that I don’t understand,” he said at the same hearing. “The record in this case convinces me that these high officials, and I include the president of the United States, have a fearful view of freedom.”
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u/zackmedude California 15m ago
reality is more than the accusation - party of law and orders has resorted to sedition to enshrine itself with permanent power.
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u/Scienceman_Taco125 2h ago
Do something about then!!! Jail time?!? Contempt?!? Any punishment is needed now!!!!
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u/Odd-Strength-3789 2h ago
The real surprise is that there's a judge out there who's actually willing to say it. Now the question is, is there ANYONE in a position of power willing to do something to end it?
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u/Worduptothebirdup 1h ago
And then the person will get a huge settlement from tax dollars, and Trump, Rubio and Noem will again face zero consequences.
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u/HapticSloughton 1h ago
Only those three?
Did the judge have a character limit on their indictment or something?
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u/xeonicus 1h ago
You know it's bad when even a Federal Judge, appointed by Reagan no less, is opening stating that the president is an authoritarian.
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u/rbremer50 51m ago
Meaningless because there are sitting Supreme Court justices actively involved in the conspiracy to overthrow our constitution.
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u/AvailableReporter484 42m ago
Well unless it involves the second amendment I can assure you that conservatives do not give a fuck.
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u/funguy202 17m ago
Can’t wait for nothing to happen about this and republicans getting reelected every year.
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u/ZombifiedSoul Canada 3h ago
"Welcome to 'Behind the Times', I'm your host ZombifiedSoul, and today we'll be saying 'No Shit, Sherlock!', to the Judge and Courts"
Welcome to the United States of Authoritarianism.
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u/FunLisa1228 3h ago
These are the comments on the record, and rulings, we need to get them all out!
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u/Hidden_Landmine_4 3h ago
Waited a bit too long on that one. Maybe next time don't wait until it's too late.
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