Immigration officers around Minneapolis are approaching people and demanding proof that they’re U.S. citizens

[u/geraffes-are-so-dumb]

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/ice-approaching-people-minneapolis-demanding-proof-citizenship-rcna254247

[u/FerricDonkey]

Seems contrary to the 4th amendment. 

[u/deadpoolfool400 → u/FerricDonkey]

It is. You're not obligated to show identification if you don't want to. They're also not allowed to stop you for violations that are not under their jurisdiction (immigration).

[u/inquisitorthreefive → u/deadpoolfool400]

It's important to note here that they ARE NOT just asking for ID. They're asking for proof of citizenship. In the US, the only documents that will do that are a birth certificate, naturalization documents or a passport. According to the administration, 2 of those 3 are questionable.

Edit: Forgot about Enhanced Driver's Licences. Those do prove citizenship but are only available in a few states.

[u/Pushabutton1972 → u/inquisitorthreefive]

That's why the correct answer is to tell them to fuck off since they have no jurisdiction or legal basis to harass people. Masked men harassing people is illegal.

[u/ObviousAnswerGuy → u/Pushabutton1972]

it is illegal, but that doesnt stop them from kidnapping and detaining you

[u/angiosperms- → u/ObviousAnswerGuy]

Showing proof of citizenship also doesn't stop them from kidnapping and detaining you so 🤷‍♀️

[u/ObviousAnswerGuy → u/angiosperms-]

exactly. We are in a full blown dictatorship.

[u/angiosperms- → u/ObviousAnswerGuy]

Compliance is just delaying the inevitable. At least not complying has somewhat of a chance of eventually stopping this. ICE are very emboldened because so far they get to do everything they want with no consequences. If anyone actually does push back they usually back down real quick.

[u/avocadoflatz → u/angiosperms-]

Everyone that feels they can manage going for the ride and being detained for several days or even weeks without emerging to their lives in shambles should probably be as uncooperative as they feel comfortable being - if nothing else it keeps a handful of ICE agents from being able to harass other less fortunate individuals.

The risk for US citizens engaging in this sort of behavior can still be pretty high though - broken ribs, torn shoulders, broken or missing teeth …

[u/angiosperms- → u/avocadoflatz]

You can get shot in the face or your baby can get teargassed for complying so it's time to stop pretending you won't get hurt or killed as long as you comply.

There are also a lot of people who refused and faced no consequences.

Like you do you but it's not like they stop you one time and you're safe. They are going to keep doing it as long as people keep complying and every time your risk of getting beaten/detained/killed increases as they become more emboldened.

[u/HerrMeisterRetsiem → u/ObviousAnswerGuy]

Or shooting you in the face, knowing they’ll be protected from any charges for it

[u/Gladsteam01 → u/ObviousAnswerGuy]

Also doesnt stop them from shooting or murdering you either.

[u/Four_beastlings → u/ObviousAnswerGuy]

Aren't they kidnapping even literal Native Americans?

[u/wytewydow → u/Four_beastlings]

They want them to go back to where they came from...

[u/PmMeYourNiceBehind → u/Pushabutton1972]

but haven’t we seen countless examples of ICE not giving a shit about the law?

[u/Striper_Cape → u/PmMeYourNiceBehind]

They'll give a shit when I use my 2nd amendment right

[u/TheWastelandWizard → u/Striper_Cape]

Everyone should exercise their right.

[u/PM_me_your_O_face_ → u/Striper_Cape]

Sadly, you will only have one opportunity to ever use it in this situation. 

[u/Eisernes → u/PM_me_your_O_face_]

Rather die free than live a slave

[u/Upset_Development_64 → u/Eisernes]

And make no mistake, this administration and their billionaire owners desire to enslave us. Being white does not exempt you from enslavement

[u/ragnaroksunset → u/PM_me_your_O_face_]

You will only have one opportunity to use it in any realistic situation it ever could have covered. Yet Americans talk about it all the time as something vital that distinguishes it from other democracies.

At some point y'all are going to have to show us that distinction.

[u/JRockPSU → u/ragnaroksunset]

Yet Americans talk about it all the time as something vital that distinguishes it from other democracies

Those specific Americans are the goddamn fucking morons that voted us into this mess

[u/CBrinson → u/Pushabutton1972]

Unfortunately this is only true if you are white and speak English without an accent. The supreme court betrayed the people and give them legal basis to retain anyone non white or with an accent. https://www.npr.org/2025/09/13/nx-s1-5507125/the-supreme-court-clears-the-way-for-ice-agents-to-treat-race-as-grounds-for-immigration-stops

[u/ErraticDragon → u/CBrinson]

Yes, Kavanaugh Stops are dystopian bullshit and they're already here.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kavanaugh_stop

Bad enough as written, but it's not even a stretch to say they'll call skin color "subjective" and go after anyone they want.

[u/Federal_Drummer7105 → u/Pushabutton1972]

And then grab your crotch and say "I got my proof of citizenship right here," along with some choice slurs.

[u/spun430 → u/Federal_Drummer7105]

Actually in the US this counts as proof

[u/Ron_Bangton → u/Federal_Drummer7105]

“Let’s see your proof of citizenship.”

“Got it right here.”

“Where?”

“Right here in deez nuts”🥜 (grabbing crotch)

[u/z-tayyy → u/Pushabutton1972]

Do you think they’ll either:

A- Say, “you’re right” and let you leave

B- Smash your face into the ground with guns pointed at you

[u/rabidstoat → u/z-tayyy]

Ooh, ooh, I'm going with B!

[u/flyingjjs → u/Pushabutton1972]

They haven't been good at taking no for an answer. Doing this has a good chance of ending up with you face down on the pavement as they arrest you for "resisting". They then take you to a holding cell, keep you there for 4-48 hours while they "consider" charges and make sure you're in whatever stupid face database they're making, then release you miles from where they picked you up because they were never going to file charges and knew that they were breaking the law before they detained you, but they don't care because they personally are never going to face consequences on the off chance you do sue for having your civil rights violated, and the only thing that happened is that you and/or your property were roughed up, traumatized, and your time was wasted while they got paid to role play CoD irl.

[u/ailish → u/inquisitorthreefive]

And anyone who thinks they'll be exempt because they're white is fooling themselves, especially in blue cities and states.

[u/therealkevinard → u/ailish]

Just a 5th-generation Irish immigrant

[u/ailish → u/therealkevinard]

Exactly. Mine came over like, I don't know, 1700 something or other maybe? Who cares, we're immigrants too.

[u/Lumbergh7 → u/inquisitorthreefive]

Let’s ask trump for his birth certificate, or even pretend Barbie noem. Let’s see if they have the documents on them.

Who caries any of that? You don’t because you don’t want to lose them!

[u/faultysynapse → u/inquisitorthreefive]

Important to note that the vast of majority of Americans do not have passports. Nor would they carry them with them if they did.

[u/rabidstoat → u/faultysynapse]

I always carry my passport in my purse in case I abruptly have to flee the country.

[u/ekoms_stnioj → u/faultysynapse]

Right? Mine is with my SSN and birth certificate in a fire proof safe, the only person I know who carries theirs is my dad who uses it as his primary form of ID when he’s in the US lol 

[u/leviathynx → u/inquisitorthreefive]

They’ve been rejecting the enhanced drivers licenses too.

[u/AnAcceptableUserName → u/leviathynx]

Yeah it's a bad joke

Submit your birth certificate, social security card, and additional proof of residency to get a state driver's license

Then submit the same documents to get a "Real ID," an object explicitly legislated by the Fed to be a verified national ID

Only to have this administration say the Real ID isn't good enough. "So what should we do?" one might ask.

Well that's easy, just carry your birth certificate and social security card with you everywhere, says Noem. Those same documents you used to get issued the driver's license & Real ID.

But those aren't good enough either so they're gonna take your picture and ask AI, because the AI is infallible

Total circus. Might as well just come out and say "we reserve the right to fuck with anyone we think looks brownish." ...oh wait, they did do that

[u/erevos33 → u/inquisitorthreefive]

Ok so, me , as a green card holder , im basically fucked right? I came legally here, married a us citizen but never naturalised. If they ever come up to me i should just assume im fucked?

[u/inquisitorthreefive → u/erevos33]

You should be OK with a green card, but I would not put money on it.

[u/erevos33 → u/inquisitorthreefive]

Yeah, legality seems to have gone out the window. Im just rly glad im white-looking and male

[u/kittbagg → u/erevos33]

Lucky you. I’m in the same boat, except I’m not white, female, and heavily pregnant. ICE is coming to my town and legitimately don’t know what to do. 

[u/Baha05 → u/inquisitorthreefive]

And let’s be real the majority of American citizens carry none of that on them unless you are going to be flying somewhere or need it for documentation to get something legal in the first place. Hell pretty sure it’s recommended that you have those at home or somewhere safe because of the information on them.

[u/CBrinson → u/deadpoolfool400]

The ridiculous supreme court ruled that just being non white is suspicion of being an illegal. It sucks but that is how they get around it. https://www.npr.org/2025/09/13/nx-s1-5507125/the-supreme-court-clears-the-way-for-ice-agents-to-treat-race-as-grounds-for-immigration-stops

I don't agree with the ruling obviously but that is how they are justifying it. They also are relying on the fact that Bindi won't prosecute crimes committed by ICE but nothing stops them from being prosecuted once Trump is dead because yeah is an 80 year old obese person with a stressful job.

[u/Coomb → u/CBrinson]

You know what's funny is that Kavanaugh recently filed a concurring opinion in a different case (Trump v. Illinois) where he said basically the opposite of what he had just said in September. It's probably because people started calling the stops based on apparent ethnicity "Kavanaugh stops".

[u/Party-Interview7464 → u/Coomb]

Upvoting for the phrase, “Kavanaugh stops.” I think he really doesn’t like it.

[u/Chewzilla → u/CBrinson]

And it's only a matter of time until being white is suspicious. A lot of you are looking awfully Canadian

[u/_Burning_Star_IV_ → u/Chewzilla]

They covered themselves already by saying antifa is a terrorist org. They can probably arrest anyone and just say you’re antifa.

[u/cribsaw → u/deadpoolfool400]

But they’re going to do it anyway because the Constitution is a piece of paper and they have guns. Arm yourselves!

[u/quocvu1825 → u/deadpoolfool400]

They're not allowed to execute people in the street either. But here we are

[u/adrr → u/deadpoolfool400]

The can and will haul you off to detention if you don’t give them any documents. They hauled off a bunch American citizen including native Americans. Supreme Court ruled that appearance can be used for reasonable suspicion. Do you want to get stuck in alligator Alcatraz for a month eating spoiled food and drinking dirty water while sleeping on concrete?

[u/Neologic29 → u/adrr]

They'll do that if they decide the documents you do decide to give them aren't sufficient. Rights are eroded in this exact way. Too many people either don't know them or don't care to exercise them. Each step is closer to not having them.

[u/ryobiguy → u/adrr]

That is so fucked. UNreasonable suspicion.

[u/SwissChzMcGeez → u/deadpoolfool400]

Oh they're being allowed.

[u/Nyaos → u/FerricDonkey]

Didn’t the Supreme Court rule via shadow docket that it’s okay to arbitrarily stop people based on ethnicity under suspicion of being an illegal immigrant?

[u/noideaman → u/Nyaos]

Kavenaugh stops. You can use ethnicity as one part of the totality of the circumstances for RAS to detain. It’s bs, but that’s what they said.

[u/Dolthra → u/noideaman]

Also important to note here that "stopped someone because of ethnicity" is different than "stopped someone demanding they show me their papers" by a long shot. One at least has the pretense of legality, the other is blatantly unconstitutional. 

[u/adrr → u/Nyaos]

It’s called a Kavanaugh stop since he wrote an opinion on it.

[u/sonic_couth → u/adrr]

And he didn’t like that they’re being called that. Fuck Supreme Injustice Boofer Kavanaugh

[u/stonemuzzle → u/sonic_couth]

He shouldn't have invented a nonsensical excuse to violate civil liberties if he didn't want to get associated with it. Besides, he and the other Republicans on SCOTUS are in far too deep to bother worrying about legacy. They invented magical crime immunity for a felon, after helping the same felon get out of his case for stealing a bunch of documents from the US and trying to hide them.

There's no rewriting that much history in the information age. They can live their lives of luxury until death, but can do nothing about being remembered as traitors long after, since their actions are both a matter of public record, and of massive amounts of reporting and conversations around them.

Then again, even McConnell seems to be trying for some last second redemption, despite being long overdue for a cell, so maybe these ancient people are really so out of touch as to think they can find a way to be remembered as anything but betrayers and failures. They should probably aspire to something more realistic, like spontaneously creating fireballs with their minds.

[u/El_solid_snake → u/adrr]

Oh I thought they were called that because they were invasive and nonconsensual. Whenever I hear “forceful, nonconsensual encounter” I think of Brett Kavanaugh.

[u/Honest-Situation-738 → u/Nyaos]

Not ethnicity.  Skin color, profession, or language.

Which ostensibly makes it even worse, because these things have little to nothing to do with nationality in a massive number of cases, and they're obviously still just being racist assholes.

The entire orange plague must go.(Chump admin and his fascist regime).

[u/mrdominoe → u/FerricDonkey]

The only amendment they give a fuck about is the 2nd. And they only ever care about that to justify dead children.

[u/ChicagoAuPair → u/mrdominoe]

They don’t actually care about that one either, except as a quick single issue vote getter. They will happily restrict gun rights of any real resistance they face.

[u/ImpulsE69 → u/ChicagoAuPair]

Yep as soon as any real pushback happens, watch them shut down all the gun shops and stop people 'of ethnicity' and check and take, regardless of carry or not. People who think they are protected by the law are in for a rude awakening as these people do not care about law, except to use it loosely against you.

[u/Guelah_Papi → u/mrdominoe]

It’d be really funny if they just stopped liking the second amendment for some, unspecified reason.

[u/mrdominoe → u/Guelah_Papi]

Ronald Reagan passed gun legislation in California after the Black Panthers showed up, armed, to his home. I am sure it was a coincidence, though.

[u/koopa00 → u/FerricDonkey]

It turns out that everything is a gentleman's agreement at the end of the day. What good is the law if one side wipes their ass with it?

[u/element42 → u/FerricDonkey]

Maybe people should all start carrying around the 4th amendment from the constitution and hand that over instead

[u/rTpure]

we could put a symbol of some sort on our clothing, maybe a sleeve for example, that would indicate our nationalities

[u/plutonasa → u/rTpure]

perhaps we should also have some identification number assigned to each of us. to make them permanent, we should tattoo them.

[u/euph-_-oric → u/plutonasa]

Perhaps we should make them all live in the same neighborhood so we know where they are. Mb we can call it a ghetto.

[u/Dahhhkness → u/euph-_-oric]

Remember when Republicans were screeching about how vaccine mandates would lead to a "papers, please" police state?

Every accusation is a confession or an aspiration.

[u/astralwyvern → u/Dahhhkness]

"Every accusation is a confession" never stops being the case with these people. They genuinely can't imagine that someone would gain power and NOT immediately become an authoritarian with it.

[u/MikeOKurias → u/astralwyvern]

That's why, when Trump said "they look at the baby and decide what to do afterwards", I knew he was a baby killer.

And then the (1% of the) Epstein files came out and someone Copy Pasta'd the truth. Trump is a baby killer... and a pedophile... and a rapist...and a traitor.

You have to be a real piece of shit to still be a republican at this point.

[u/TheOnlyCloud → u/MikeOKurias]

His dementia-ridden brain is going to continue spitting out truths spun like accusations until his dying breath, may it come slowly and in great discomfort.

[u/pyotrdevries → u/TheOnlyCloud]

For the sake of our planet I'm willing to compromise on the slowly.

[u/Bitter-Researcher389 → u/Dahhhkness]

I remember their panic about the “FEMA camps” Obama was building… and now they’re building literal concentration camps.

[u/UncleDreadBeard → u/Bitter-Researcher389]

I survived Jade Helm and all I got was this shitty red hat.

[u/No-Road-9324 → u/Bitter-Researcher389]

That's why they were afraid - it's the type of thing they do. Everything is projection.

[u/American_PissAnt → u/Dahhhkness]

I remember when republicans would screech about “15-minute cities” like that was a bad thing

[u/stars_mcdazzler → u/euph-_-oric]

oh that's an interesting word. sounds foreign and exotic.

[u/Motor-District-3700 → u/plutonasa]

you guys do that, Ima hide in an attic and start a diary

[u/Bearded_Toast → u/Motor-District-3700]

Can I be frank with you?

[u/Dr_Oz_But_Real → u/Bearded_Toast]

....Ann tell you a story?

[u/lindisty → u/plutonasa]

If next Monday we woke up to The Idiot making it mandatory that all citizens have their SSN tattooed on their hand or their forehead his Evangelical followers wouldn't bat an eye.

[u/American_PissAnt → u/plutonasa]

Tattoos are so primitive. Better use microchips injected under the skin, which can be remotely scanned by strategically placed scanners and mobile palantir surveillance drones

[u/Cookies78 → u/American_PissAnt]

All paid for with peasant tax dollars

[u/PrezzNotSure → u/plutonasa]

"Why come no have tattoo?" - ICE.(also Idiocracy cops)

Mike Judge was a prophet... unfortunately

[u/summerist → u/rTpure]

Tattoo something on the arm for every new born as a proof of citizenship.

[u/Cicada_Soft_Official → u/summerist]

MAGA nodding in absolute seriousness right now.

[u/Channel250 → u/Cicada_Soft_Official]

"No no...see that ink is Baby Blue. Only Navy Blue are citizens.

I've had an unfortunate conversation with a coworker. He is pretty pro all of this, so I asked him to play a game. I told him to use only what he has in his pockets to prove he's a US citizen.

He showed me all sorts of ID and credit cards.

Nope.

After informing him that nonsense that proves citizenship he shrugged his shoulders and said "Yeah, but I'm white."

And there is was. Maybe it wasn't such an unfortunate conversation afterall.

[u/Cicada_Soft_Official → u/Channel250]

And the ironic thing about these racist Nazis and their mindset is that there are countless multigenerational POC that have deeper roots / "been here longer" than plenty of white people from families that immigrated later.

I also find it ironic how these pieces of shit are ALWAYS the first to start spewing bullshit like "I'm Irish, Swiss, German, etc."

[u/sportsfannf → u/Channel250]

You’re better than me. My response would have been, “Yeah. White and a racist piece of shit. Fuck off.”

[u/Tuxedo_Muffin → u/sportsfannf]

Unfortunately, they have to work with this person. I wonder who HR would side with...

[u/supercali45 → u/rTpure]

The tech bros will gladly implant a chip in your head or QR code

[u/Vio_ → u/supercali45]

Will they be first in line?

[u/Sacaron_R3 → u/Vio_]

Na, its only for the riffraff. It will also cost like 5000 bucks to get that chip, so you better start working in the mines as soon as you can walk in order to pay off your debt.

[u/Manawski_ → u/Sacaron_R3]

Even better, it's on a subscription model

[u/tawDry_Union2272 → u/rTpure]

what do native americans get compared to everyone else?! will there be a pecking order for the rest of us!? my ancestors have been here waaaaaaaaaaaay longer than trump and his family's ancestors, i want special treatment dammit.

[u/elkab0ng → u/tawDry_Union2272]

what do native americans get

“Historically consistent treatment”, apparently, is the answer. (See puppy-shooter and recent arrests of native Americans for “not being able to prove their citizenship”, which is so painfully on-brand for this administration that it causes me to be nauseous)

[u/ChicagoAuPair → u/rTpure]

You know the Nazis Republicans had pieces of flair…that they made the Jews literally everyone wear.

[u/MentalSky_]

“Papers, please” said the SS officer

[u/evocativename → u/MentalSky_]

These assholes don't even bother with the "please"

[u/diet_fat_bacon → u/evocativename]

They don't even bother with calling them nazis...

[u/hugh_jorgyn → u/evocativename]

“Papers! Stop resisting!”

[u/cedriceent → u/MentalSky_]

Glory to Arse-totzka!

[u/mellolizard → u/MentalSky_]

Papiere, bitte

[u/eric_ts]

I remember back before you had to carry your papers on you when you were in public. When I was in school it was explained to me that only dictatorial government, particularly communist ones, but also using Nazi Germany as an example, required such paperwork. America was a free country because you didn’t need anybody’s permission to live your life. We are not that country anymore. MAGA deserves to be shamed for what they have done, but are incapable of feeling that particular emotion. They want this.

[u/Sebin7 → u/eric_ts]

I remember in the movie Red October when Sean Connery's (Capt Ramius) character is talking about living in the US with Sam Neill's character.

Capt. Vasili Borodin: I will live in Montana. And I will marry a round American woman and raise rabbits, and she will cook them for me. And I will have a pickup truck... maybe even a "recreational vehicle." And drive from state to state. Do they let you do that?

Captain Ramius: I suppose.

Capt. Vasili Borodin: No papers?

Captain Ramius: No papers, state to state.

Capt. Vasili Borodin: Well then, in winter I will live in... Arizona. Actually, I think I will need two wives.

Even our own movies show how much things have changed.

[u/XR171 → u/Sebin7]

Two wives but one ping only please.

[u/dolemite99 → u/XR171]

Some of these rabbits don’t react too well to bullets.

[u/XR171 → u/dolemite99]

You'll recieve the Order of Bozeman for this.

[u/American_PissAnt → u/eric_ts]

Many of the Stalinist purges from Moscow targeted immigrants without valid paperwork. But the police would just grab almost anyone to meet quota. There are stories of men going outside for a smoke and being arrested and deported to Siberia because they didn’t have their papers on them.

[u/MommyLovesPot8toes → u/eric_ts]

We ARE that country!! The second you say "oh well, I guess we have to carry papers now" is the moment we lose this country. But right now, I say "fuck you, make me." That is the American spirit.

Don't comply in advance. Don't give them one inch without fighting for it.

Do you really think that if the million white people around Minneapolis just decide "no, I'm not carrying my papers", ICE will continue demanding them and arresting people? They don't have the capacity! They are counting on us to rollover and comply because they know they can't make us. Be an American: Be stubborn!

[u/Paulpoleon → u/MommyLovesPot8toes]

“Oh you want my ID? [reaches into pocket]🖕Im a citizen! I’ll show you my papers when you show me a signed warrant and your face, badge and ID card. Until such time, fuck all the way off!

Or you we can do this the hard way and you can rough me up and violate my rights. Go ahead and make me rich! I’ll see you when you and your bosses are subpoenaed to court in a couple years! “

[u/Intelligent_Cap9706 → u/eric_ts]

I’m sure the native populations have been laughing at our entitlement of “freedom” since the country was founded. This place has never been free. Free for who and in what moment is more like it 

[u/Weary-Wand192]

It's like they're trying to hit everything on the Nazi checklist.

[u/Cicada_Soft_Official → u/Weary-Wand192]

Almost like they are Nazis or something...

[u/Dahhhkness → u/Cicada_Soft_Official]

Like the Assistant Chief Counsel for ICE

[u/durntaur → u/Cicada_Soft_Official]

It's almost like the Commander in Chief kept a copy of Mein Kampf on his nightstand and were told we were overreacting.

[u/BadKittydotexe → u/Weary-Wand192]

They have the same motivations the Nazis did and are solving the “problems” they encounter with the same solutions. Which is why it’s not hyperbolic to say they’re going to reach the same conclusions given the opportunity.

[u/Count_de_Ville]

Do NOT carry your citizenship documents with you!

If you really feel the need to carry around something like your passport, carry a paper copy of it ONLY. Not your actual passport and not a picture of it on your phone either. You want to present to ICE your unlocked phone? The last thing you want is ICE to refuse to return your passport or phone until you answer all of their questions to their satisfaction. Carry a paper copy ONLY so that you're in a position to tell them to fuck off and walk away, leaving nothing of value behind. A paper copy has everything they need. They're not out there on the streets with chip readers and passport scanners. This ain't the airport.

You'll never feel more alive as a United States citizen than when you exercise your rights by telling some trumped up thug that your rights don't end when they get pissy.

[u/alterom → u/Count_de_Ville]

Alternatively: apply for and get a passport card in addition to your passport.

That's an actual ID that proves citizenship (and is accepted at land border crossings).

Keep your passport away from the thugs. And if needs be, let them have the passport card.

[u/cheese-glitter-treea → u/alterom]

Ugh.  To get the passport card if you already have the book you have to send you book back in.  so you're without your passport until the process the card and send it all back

[u/genital_lesions → u/Count_de_Ville]

The only thing I'll carry is my CCW permit card and my legally and constitutionally protected gun. These Nazi fucks can deal with it.

[u/DogsAreOurFriends]

Just wait until we are rounding up former ICE agents.

[u/GabrielaM11 → u/DogsAreOurFriends]

Nuremberg really needs to happen

[u/APKID716 → u/GabrielaM11]

Nuremberg really didn’t do anything remotely significant enough, we need a Nuremberg on fucking steroids

[u/Blovesmusic → u/DogsAreOurFriends]

Rounding up and jailing all former ice agents would be a huge positive for our society since the organization has conveniently concentrated the worst types of people together. Best to remove them from civil society.

[u/dlc741 → u/Blovesmusic]

I think there's plenty of room in Gitmo these days.

[u/mrdominoe]

This it nazi bullshit. If you vote Republican, you are pro-nazis.

[u/RareRestaurant6297 → u/mrdominoe]

That's the point, to them

[u/Dariaskehl → u/mrdominoe]

Also Guardians Of Pedophiles! It’s in the name!

[u/fightfire_withfire → u/mrdominoe]

Pro Nazi

Pro Pedophile

Pro Abuse

Pro Racism

Whether you voted Trump, or didn’t vote.

[u/jackp0t789 → u/mrdominoe]

Honestly, an argument could be made that it's worse...

Germans in 1933 had no historical precedent to warn them against voting for a party that held such extreme views.

In 2016 and 2024, people had blaring historical warnings going off from within living memory... and they still didn't see the signs that were clearly present at all stages of this iterations rise to power.

[u/ComfortableWage]

Straight up Nazi fucking shit.

[u/bigredthesnorer → u/ComfortableWage]

Many of them are Nazis.

[u/takeitawayfellas]

Interestingly, in the U.S. criminal justice system, the burden of proof remains on the government.

Furthermore, it's not a crime anywhere in the US to go without identification.

Just little things that are true, at least as of 01/16/2026

[u/BringBackBoshi → u/takeitawayfellas]

They really don't care what the law says at this point. The law is whatever they decide it is on a given day. The supreme Court and other lawmakers are A okay with it.

[u/adrr → u/takeitawayfellas]

Trump admin has argued only citizens have due processes. They have declared everyone as non citizens unless proven otherwise.

[u/DjImagin]

It’s amazing to watch all this happen and all of the levers of government in the US that are supposed to put a check on shit like this failed.

[u/Thetman38]

And they want us to stop calling them Nazis?

[u/tabrizzi]

The “show me your papers” encounters are showing up on social media and have even prompted podcaster Joe Rogan, a Trump backer in the 2024 campaign, to ask, “Are we really going to be the Gestapo?”

Well, Joe, this version of the Gestapo have more fancy and lethal hardware.

And, btw, Joe, since you played your part in making this possible, congratulations!

[u/janethefish → u/tabrizzi]

Yeah. Joe Rogan supported this. Fuck that guy.

[u/MinistryOfCoup-th]

4th amendment rights violation. In my opinion all amendments are equal.

[u/ImNotTheBossOfYou → u/MinistryOfCoup-th]

They don't care

[u/fr4nk_j4eger]

imho this looks like a precise strategy to instigate a violent response. It looks like the government really want to ignite a civil war.

[u/Thor4269 → u/fr4nk_j4eger]

That is literally the goal

The president of the Heritage Foundation said that the country was “in the process of the second American Revolution, which will remain bloodless if the left allows it to be.”

The second civil war already started

[u/drfeelsgoood → u/Thor4269]

And “the left” isn’t the cause of the bloodshed that had been shed so far.

[u/ChicagoAuPair → u/fr4nk_j4eger]

Any excuse to invoke the insurrection act before the midterms has always been the main point of all of this.

[u/THE_CODE_IS_0451 → u/fr4nk_j4eger]

It was always going to end that way. Conservatives never intended to give us a way to peacefully resolve our differences. They are an existential threat to our safety, and it is beyond time that we start treating them that way.

[u/adrr → u/fr4nk_j4eger]

Trump wants a cover for when he cancels the mid terms.

[u/liberum_bellum_libro → u/adrr]

Trump can’t cancel the midterm, the more people give him the illusion that it’s possible the more likely he will think he can.

[u/JellyDonutFrenzy]

Is the ICE training manual simply the book Nazi for Dummies?

[u/oldcreaker]

And Real ID isn't good enough. At least if you're not white. Or you look woke.

What's in your wallet to prove your citizenship?

[u/YesterShill]

This is a blatant civil rights violation.

The entire country should be opposed to this idea.

Except Republicans seem to be embracing losing their freedoms.

[u/Arcalpaca]

Turn the tables; demand they prove they are who they are and show ID and a warrant.

[u/zoethezebra]

Kavanaugh stops. Thanks, SCOTUS!

[u/sarahtheginger26]

The same people that bitched and moaned during COVID when you had to show your vaccination card to fly

[u/One_Violinist7862]

Nazi Trump gestapo. And people support this?

[u/BringBackBoshi → u/One_Violinist7862]

The people supporting this are boot licking big government, big brother loving pieces of trash.

[u/Edogawa1983]

Ask them to prove theirs first and when they can't perform a citizens arrest

[u/Modern_Bear]

Democrat files articles of impeachment against Noem

The first impeachment article alleges Noem denied Kelly and other members of Congress “oversight of ICE detention facilities,” the congresswoman said at her presser.

Kelly explained the second article, which accuses Noem of violating public trust, by saying Noem “directed DHS agents to arrest people without warrants, use tear gas against citizens, and ignore due process.”

Kelly said Noem frequently says “she’s taking murderers and rapists off our streets, but none of the 614 people arrested during Operation Midway Blitz in Chicago has been charged or convicted of murder or rape.”

On the third impeachment article, which accuses the secretary of self-dealing, Kelly said Noem “abused her power for personal benefit,” and “steered a federal contract to a new firm run by a friend.”

Too bad almost all Republicans in Congress won't grow a pair and actually stand up for the people for once. Vote this November. There is no excuse for apathy and staying home.

[u/runningraleigh]

How about proof of my 2nd amendment right instead?

[u/bilibass]

Straight nazi shit. If you feel like you would have stood up to the nazis in the 30s and 40s, now’s the time to stand up to ice.

[u/eped123]

Perhaps people need to wear special armbands based on nationality and religion now as proof...

That went over well in Nazi Germany I hear.  

[u/wastedgod]

the irony of a bunch of cowards hiding behind masks demanding people identify themselves

[u/Fragster2020]

Wear a MAGA hat and they'll move on.

[u/InsuranceToTheRescue → u/Fragster2020]

Isn't this the plot of a Curb your Enthusiasm episode?

[u/webrender → u/Fragster2020]

now i want a red hat that says "IM WEARING THIS SO THAT I DONT GET STOPPED BY ICE"

[u/EatinSumGrapes → u/Fragster2020]

This is the sad truth, the same reason Trump supports won't have any issues with this impediment on American rights. They know they're safe because they are loyal.

You ever think about how the people who love police and don't care about brutality also pretty much always have friends or family on the force? They don't love the law, they love how they can get away with breaking the law while other people without an "in" will get in huge trouble.

[u/Petaris → u/EatinSumGrapes]

They assume they are safe because they are loyal. I suspect that won't work out for them in the long run.

[u/GoodIdea321 → u/Petaris]

It never does, they are loyal to a man who is loyal to nobody. And that is a one way street.

[u/ChunkyBubblz]

America is a full blown Nazi police state in under a year of the racist Trump regime.

[u/yagirlmimi]

Not that anyone should feel at ease with this because the men in the 60 minutes report already stated they were sexually assaulted but women especially regardless of race should have alarm bells going off. Let’s face it, during any period like this the men in these type of positions will abuse their role of power for personal gain sexually so it’s only a matter of time before we start hearing about SA victims at the hands of ICE. “I find her attractive, I’ll just ask to see if she’s an American citizen”. I really really hope I’m wrong but it’s not something I’d take lightly.

[u/monchikun]

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[u/Ornery-Ticket834]

These are” Brett Kavanaugh stops”. Perfectly legal according to our high court.

[u/Future_Sundae7843]

but the democrats didnt do enough to earn my vote /s

[u/Cynical_Classicist]

Welcome to fascism. This is what the US voted for.

[u/Setekh79]

"It won't happen here, don't compare what's happening to what the Jews faced in the 1930's!"

Literally happening there.

I think you guys might actually be done this time.

[u/click2Install]

The scary thing is how the media is portraying all of this. I was at my in-laws the other day and they had fox news on. The way they glossed over what was going on in Minnesota, Greenland, withholding fundings from blue states is scary Calming.

Once it was done I honestly felt myself saying, oh thats not that bad. Then im like wait, wtf just happened.

[u/esther_lamonte]

Where’s all those MAGA-loving first amendment auditors these days? They all seem to have gone mute when it was their time to shine.

[u/Vladivostokorbust]

Article sub headline:

“U.S. citizens who are out walking or standing in public are not required to provide documentation or provide identification, one legal expert says.”

Good luck telling an ICE agent that legal experts say it’s ok you don’t need to carry it. They’re ignoring court orders they don’t GAF about experts

[u/Red_Wing-GrimThug]

Can anyone, I mean anyone explain how this is LEGAL in the UNITED STATES of AMERICA and why this isn’t going in front of a Federal Judge immediately???

[u/RepulsiveLoquat418]

how soon before the new hugo boss uniforms are issued?

[u/Prestigious_Beat6310 → u/RepulsiveLoquat418]

Those are too dressy these guys rock that George brand from Walmart 

[u/oldcreaker]

You'll need a passport - and there's no guarantee they won't just walk off with it, or any of your other id.

[u/TheRealness408]

Prove your citizenship to peope who refuse to prove they're even law enforcement. I forsee a lot of self defense.

[u/oatmeal28]

Are we still now allowed to point out the parallels to literally every fascist regime ever without offending "moderates" and "centrists"

[u/silly_scoundrel]

Who says they can't just steal your ID? Like they force you to hand them your ID and they just pocket it?

[u/fartpotatoes23]

have even prompted podcaster Joe Rogan, a Trump backer in the 2024 campaign, to ask, “Are we really going to be the Gestapo?”

Yes, you fucking moron. Americans, including Joe, voted specifically for this and large part of them are absolutely loving what is happening.

[u/Aderbaby]

Reminder that the political party in power has been fear mongering the idea of showing your papers for decades.

Never vote republican again.

[u/Hank_moody71]

There's no federal law demanding U.S. citizens carry proof of citizenship when walking or in public spaces.

[u/cat4hurricane]

Gentle reminder that there is no law stating that US Citizens must carry documents stating their immigration/citizenship status, nor are US Citizens legally required to have them available. U.S. citizens are not required to have their passports/passport cards, SSN, or birth certificates with them.

By complying, you are giving them power they do not legally have. They should not be able to demand proof of citizenship for anyone beyond identified immigrants and those going through the process of obtaining Citizenship (Greencard/asylum seekers, Visa holders etc). They should be identifying people before they grab them/know that who they are talking to is an immigrant, but US Citizens are not legally required to have their documents on them at all times. This is not the Soviet Union or Nazi Germany, the US does not have internal travel documents, and people have the freedom of movement here.

US Citizens are actually uniquely free from the obligation to carry our documents on us at all times. It is entirely legal for ICE/CBP/DHS to ask an immigrant for their legal documents/immigration status and documents at any time. It is not legal to require a US Citizen to produce said documents (Documents stated above) nor is it legal to require US Citizens to state or prove their citizenship status on the spot. Most Americans do not have a passport, and the documents required to prove citizenship are (maybe purposefully?) incredibly flimsy, they're not exactly something that's easy to carry around and keep in pristine condition.

[u/Plastic-Mode-6848]

If you’re answering yes to this issue and instructing to just comply- do whatever they ask, then when you go to vote, ICE will be at the polling stations asking for proof you- that’s entirely illegal and a violation of our civil rights under the constitution and bill of rights. Fuck’em!

[u/CashCow4u]

After I see their face & ID to prove they aren't kidnappers

[u/gobbluthillusions]

Everyone should go to the nearest Walmart and buy a tshirt and hat with American flags on them. Wear them anywhere you think you could be a target and let’s see the images from those arrests.

[u/bananachow]

Curious how many white skinned people they’re asking.