r/europe • u/drempath1981 • 10h ago
News Trump says he may punish countries with tariffs if they don’t back the US controlling Greenland
https://apnews.com/article/denmark-greenland-us-trump-tariffs-c8c17c89cbc4ca9819eb728102d0a2b33.3k
u/Island_Monkey86 9h ago
If he learns that everytime he puts on pressure he gets what he wants, we will create a monster.
It's going to hurt but we need to draw a solid line. Up to here and no further.
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u/onlyhere4loveisland 8h ago edited 5h ago
We already have created the monster — a pissed off American who was in Europe trying to escape this shit way back in 2016 cause I’m thankfully not a moron
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u/rubenbest 6h ago
I think us Americans created this monster.
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u/bluespacecolombo 6h ago
And the entire world is paying the price. I’m sitting here in europe, seeing negative impact of US election on my private life. Just because bunch of mouthbreathing hobos are so easy to manipulate that all it takes is couple of posts on their facebook feed to steer then into voting an 80 iq mango cheeto into the most important role on the entire planet. Fk humanity
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u/OneOfAKind2 5h ago
This is what happens when a party like the GOP defunds education. You would think a leading country would want to promote education and make it free/affordable for ALL. Nope, not the US of A. The more ignorant their constituents, the better.
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u/user_x9000 4h ago
It's also a failure of character and leadership, not just hub Congress and judiciary but also Business community, specially at media companies. Fox news etc have deliberately been outright lying to their audience... And their audience share increased!... But at what price? Just $750 million for faith in elections!
(Referring to the 750ish million settlement with dominion, which has since been acquired by a pro Trump leadership.
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u/odjobz 2h ago
Rupert Murdoch realised that negativity drove engagement long before social media existed.
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u/TreatAffectionate453 6h ago
Worse, the monster was already there, American voters saw it, and more than half of them thought it would be a great if it represented the country a second time.
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u/Highsnberg91 6h ago
The Russian did their part too
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u/dontygrimm 5h ago
Russia is bad but the only people to blame for America's state is America and America alone. Time they take ownership of there shit show
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u/Fluid-Piccolo-6911 5h ago
americans put him in power knowing his history, its entirely on them
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u/omgahya 6h ago
Two thirds of our population released that monster in 2024. He was created back in 2016, and he was caged after 2020.
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u/jnads 6h ago
We in the US need a good embargo.
The average US consumer is so disconnected from reality of how dependent we are on the rest of the world.
30-40% of our produce is imported in the grocery store.
There would be riots within a week.
We already flip our shit when DoorDash tells us one thing is out of stock. Imagine if everything is out of stock.
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u/jackofslayers 8h ago
I really doubt any hard lines will be drawn with the US considering how Russia has been handled.
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u/ice-ink 6h ago
considering how Russia has been handled.
I’m pretty sure that’s a big part of the reason why he’s acting like this. Turns out you can attack anyone you want, kill an untold number of people, and all the leaders of the ‘civilized west’ will beg you to please stop the war, that’s it.
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u/mattiasso 7h ago
China knows it and behaves accordingly. It’s a sad day: I must say that Europe should look at China on how to behave (with him)
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u/Crypt33x Berlin (Germany) 6h ago
No lines. Just ignore them. Stop communicate with them. It's worthless. They just feel important. They not negotiating anyway and appeasement never works. Ignoring works and pretending they not existing. Talk to Obama instead as he would be their president. They will go crazy.
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u/G_UK 9h ago
Just tell America to get fucked, we can’t spend our lives revolving around their psychodrama
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u/QuirkyWish3081 United Kingdom 9h ago
BuT WhAt AbOuT OuR SpEcIaL ReLaTiOnShIp? 😥
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u/governmenttookmaporn 9h ago
Trumps special relationships tend to involve a pervert island
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u/hedanpedia 9h ago
Brit.. sorry, epstein.. island?
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u/QuirkyWish3081 United Kingdom 8h ago
Tracey Island
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u/Anandya 8h ago
Do you remember when billionaires built cool islands filled with slides so that they could rescue people?
Not islands filled with sex masks for alleged "dentistry" and AI that lets you sexify women and children...
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u/EpicIshmael 8h ago
I mean the royal family is also weird sex perverts.
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u/ClevelandWomble 8h ago
Well, in fairness, the one in the pictures got booted out. America would have made him king.
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u/Darkone539 9h ago
You joke, but the UK has an actual issue here. Our defence and intelligence is as integrated as any on the planet.
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u/Jack_Spatchcock_MLKS 8h ago
Try being us.... It's like living in the apartment above the meth lab here in 🇨🇦....
Least you guys got your own nukes....
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u/utdconsq 6h ago
Or us where decades of weak leadership led to us being basically a vassal state where our defence strategy is 'the US will help'.
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u/QuirkyWish3081 United Kingdom 9h ago
Hence why Sir Keir is trying to keep him sweet. Bet he wished he had Covid to deal with instead now. I just hope he’s instructed people in his team to start uncoupling from America. They cannot be trusted anymore. You never know what quackpot is going to lead them next. Zero governance. Zero accountability.
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u/KindaFreeXP 8h ago
Best to cut ties now, go temporarily blind, and start rebuilding than to have those ties when the US starts to look hungrily at the British Isles....
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u/Unique_Prior_4407 8h ago
Its special all right. But in the escaped mental patient and handler typ of relation
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u/CmdrJemison Croatia 9h ago
It's becoming really exhausting.
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u/Turbulent-Grade-3559 8h ago
It’s designed to be. The exhaustion breeds apathy and apathy breeds people just letting them do what they want.
It’s a built in feature of MAGA home policy and foreign policy
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u/CmdrJemison Croatia 8h ago
Yea I already expected this. This is a tactic also used in internet debates. In the end it will all return to them like a boomerang.
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u/BioBoiEzlo Sweden 8h ago
Which is why we need to try to build on this anger and frustration instead and try to energize from what we are feeling to take countermeasures.
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u/WislaHD Polish-Canadian 8h ago
You have no idea how exhausting it is to be next door neighbours.
Well as a Croat you probably do have some idea tbh. It is an entirely new feeling for Canadians to live day-to-day with the threats made to our sovereignty and wellbeing though. I do not wish this on anyone.
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u/shammyboii Finland 9h ago
True, lets just get tariffed immediately and be done with it lmao
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u/Spokraket 8h ago
Open up all trade to China. Sure China wins but in the end China is more predictable than this complete lunatic.
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u/Witte-666 5h ago
At least China is less inclined to throw made agreements through the window every 4 years.
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u/TheEmpireOfSun 8h ago
I actually see this as Trump kinda backing off from hostile takeover and starting war with NATO. Tariffs? Yeah, who cares and it once again will mostly hurt US lol. If this is his 'solution' and 'revenge' bring those tariffs right away.
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u/Next-Preference-7927 6h ago
He already tariffed us because we dared to allow the US to have a trade surplus with us. And he placed tariffs on our penguins should they choose to start exporting goods to the US.
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u/thedougd 9h ago
As an American I respect the sentiment. Wish us luck.
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u/celBanat Romania 9h ago
Just fuck him at midterms. Good luck!
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u/Winjin 8h ago
Looks like he wants to do a Putin though and there would be no midterms, or at least no real elections
And if it won't be him, the next guy would be the same thing, by the looks of it
They're going this way super fast too, it's like none of the famed checks and balances actually work
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u/BioBoiEzlo Sweden 8h ago
The checks and balances always seemed weak in the US. But I would have hoped they where stronger than this.
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u/DenimDangerAAC 8h ago
US founding fathers originally expected rivalries between 3 branches of government, executive (President), legislative (senate and House of Representatives), and judicial (Supreme Court and lower courts). They weren’t expecting rivalries between political parties, and especially not when there are only two parties. Currently Republicans control all three branches, so we won’t see one branch turn on another when they’re all working towards the same goal. Founding fathers actually specifically warned against political parties of any kind, but here we are.
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u/BioBoiEzlo Sweden 8h ago
I also think there are soo many structrural problems, like the president having too much power and there being too much interference from the executive in the detailed or daily running of government agencies or departments. There are probably more and the first past the post voting system also contributes to massively fucking up American politics. Combine that with a zealous reverence for a 200 year old papper that seems impossible to change anymore and you get big issues.
Edit: I forgot that the judicial system is hardly independent, but controlled by the political parties or their allies.
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u/DenimDangerAAC 7h ago
President used to have very little power on his own in official capacity. The position would generally provide a “guiding compass” so to speak as to the general direction the rest of the branches would work towards. What we’re dealing with now is a corrupt president and more than half of our elected officials being sycophants to said president enabling his every will and decree a reality.
Some states have ranked choice voting at a state level, but we don’t have anything like that for federal/national elections. Sure would be nice though, but this goes back to our politicians not wanting to make changes to the system that would result in them having less power.
Same can be said for all the lobbying. Corporate interests paying a middle man to pay our politicians off for the corporation’s benefit. Perfectly legal after a Supreme Court decision in 2010 ironically called “Citizens United”. The “Citizens United” in the legal case were a bunch of corporations arguing that their donations to politicians constitute free speech. So the more money you have, the more political influence you have. Totally not dealing with those consequences today.
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u/sayonaradespair 7h ago edited 7h ago
I'll bet you my salary there won't be midterms.
I'll bet you an extra salary there won't be general elections in 2028 either.
The mf said so himself and people laughed and voted for him
And a third of the country decided it wasn't worth the hassle to go out and vote.
I dont even know who is more stupid, his voters or the ones that decided they couldnt be bothered voting between this Orange dangerous mf and kamala.
I'm European and I thought people would go out in droves to avoid this shit show that's happening now but ...No.
The rest of the world is very fuckin disappointed at the US.
Seriously wtf is wrong with most of you people.
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u/Winjin 7h ago
I'm assuming they will just steal those outright
Like they will be there, but as real as Russian, 146% support for Trump
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u/atzucach 9h ago
I'll wish you luck the way I'd wish luck to someone who ignored a serious disease with numerous obvious symptoms for years.
Good luck
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u/Fit_Fisherman_9840 Italy 9h ago
Then after that iceland, then canada and so on.
Better donì't start at all the appeasing game, didn't worked well the last time with the silly mustace painter guy.
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u/theEssiminator The Netherlands 7h ago
Do not forget Spitsbergen. Strategically more important than Greenland.
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u/PureCaramel5800 9h ago
And so the blackmail continues! It was a huge mistake for the EU to give in the first time.
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u/DavidlikesPeace 9h ago
Appeasement never works.
All last year, people who should know better told Europe that it's important to be the mature adult in the room. Guess they made an oops.
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u/EHA17 9h ago
China stood up and look at the difference.. He's a bully, you can never bow your head to a bully and expect him to stop harassing you.
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u/PureCaramel5800 9h ago
The problem is that whenever the EU wants to push back, all the governments of the member countries start pressuring the Commission for their own key industries. Until we as Europeans start pressuring our governments not to do that, nothing will change. We have two options: get sodomised as small individual countries or band together and take up the fight.
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u/Unlucky-Mud-8115 7h ago
I think one thing that really hurts us as a Union is zhe way the Veto system is set up, especially as long as we have bastards like Orban in the EU who is only in it for the money and is in reallity an asset of Putin. We need to think like a "country" Europe, but I feel like thats where our long history actually bites us in the ass.
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u/PureCaramel5800 7h ago
You mean Orbán, the person Meloni is promoting for reelection? We really are our own worst enemy.
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u/Unlucky-Mud-8115 7h ago
Yep. One thing I also watch with dread is the rise of right wing parties, like here in Austria the FPÖ. Its disheartening to see people falling for the same bullshit over and over again.
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u/AlivenReis 9h ago
You dont negotiate or argue with fascist and authoritarians. You engage them and fight them. Being adult in a room with america means throwing america out of the room if not outright beating it
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u/Overrated_Sunshine 9h ago edited 8h ago
We’re standing up now.
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u/Hutcho12 9h ago
They didn't really give in. None of the measures they promised to enact to get their "special treatment" have come to pass. The EU is just biding their time as long as possible, hoping he dies or is impeached and things can get back to normal with as little damage as possible.
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u/klausness Austria 8h ago
The problem is that, even if that’s accurate, it looks like giving in to Trump. For Trump, any concession (or perceived concession) is a sign of weakness, which means that he’ll push for more and more.
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u/IceKey7990 9h ago
Here's a trip though: the US has always done this to other countries. And we gladly participated, decade after decade.. See Iran.
We're just closer to the receiving end than we've ever been and we say: "this is just Trump, this is a fluke."
We should learn that any system we comply with can always turn again us.
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u/The_Krambambulist The Netherlands 9h ago
I think it's more about the breaking of trust and cooperation even when you have shown good will all that time.
Aside from the US apparently trying to go against a lot of countries at the same time. Or moving to more relations with a country like Russia that will never trust or really cooperate with them anyways.
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u/notruth_allpermitted 9h ago
Trust that depends on overlooking or enabling actions one considers immoral is not genuine trust but convenience. Once interests diverge, there is no reason to expect such an arrangement to hold, let alone to be respected.
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u/Excellent-Menu-8784 9h ago
You don’t get it mr krambabulist. Lots of nations have shown that trust and goodwill- they still got screwed over. First time it’s happening to the EU and that’s why you think it is particularly different
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u/Atilim87 9h ago
What this guy is saying though and what you aren’t getting. Other countries like Iran have always been part of the US bullying target.
First the coup, then followed by helping Saddam gas Iran and when that didn’t work it was sanctions.
Europe has helped the US and even during Trump when Trump ended the nuclear deal and bombed Iran. Europe has always been a helping hand even when publicly they didn’t agree.
Now it’s Europes time to experience the same treatment. And this is t just a Trump thing, a lot of republicans weren’t happy when France and Germany didnt support US invasion of Iraq.
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u/ItsSchmidtyC 9h ago
Appeasement never works
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u/DocMoochal 9h ago
Europe and CANZUK need to start dumping US bonds. Its going to screw all of us but better to miss a few meals then lose a generation of men and women in yet another senseless war that will achieve nothing.
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u/Cum_Smurf Limburg (Netherlands) 9h ago edited 9h ago
I dont care dumping US citizens into crippling debt if it helps reforming your country under a different rethoric than " America best country in the world" and "we are number 1". Because thats where it all starts. Decades and decades of brainwashing people into thinking facism doesnt happen in the US because your country is "too good" for such thing to happen until one dickhead gets all the power and turns it into the fascist shithole it is today.
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u/DocMoochal 9h ago
Agreed. Im Canadian though. When I said all of us, I meant all of us. The collapse of the US dollar will royaly fuck the world. But like I said. Better to miss some meals then fight another brutal war. Its easier to economically rebuild the globe than literally rebuild the globe.
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u/Caput-NL 9h ago
Completely agree, if hostile boots come to the ground in Greenland from the US it will be Article 5 territory. We will still miss those meals because every western nation will start to distrust eachother. Article 5 doesn’t mean shit, but if all NATO members apart from the USA agree to defend Greenland. It will open a massive security issue because USA’s largest border will be hostile. If it will come to that, it hopefully be enough to get the shitbag out off office.
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u/grizzli11 8h ago
« Usa largest border Will become hostile ». As a Canadian i do not Want to become Ukraine. However since the trade war already started, i agree about the dumping of treasury bonds. China will follow so it becomes EU CANZUK + china. Let’s see later how the orange man reacts.
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u/barbariccomplexity 6h ago
I don’t want to become Ukraine either, but I’d way rather we be in Ukraine’s situation than Belarus - which seems to be MAGA’s envisioned future for us. If we have to fight then it’d be better to do so earlier (even though we’d lose) rather than decades later fighting a propped-up puppet government.
Separatists (I live in Alberta and jesus christ only the very dumbest people I know even entertain the idea), Pierre, and other grifters come to power and gladly just sell our souls and future to turn Canada into a modern Vichy-France. And that would likely be the most comfortable and enticing pathway for a lot of people - it will just ruin our reputation, stain our history, and be much worse long-term in every conceivable way. I’d much rather die in a trench out in bum-fuck nowhere (in 4K, on youtube with MAGA-phonk playing) than contribute to a society and world like that for my kids to grow up in.
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u/RainbowDarter 9h ago
But .. but ... What about the billionaires !?
Won't anyone think of the billionaires?
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u/Panzermensch911 6h ago
We also need to dump US tech companies. Immediately. Yes I know I know ironic being on reddit. However there's still a difference between government and private person.
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u/solawind 9h ago
Same for Russia , you can’t surrender Ukraine and expect Russia to immediately change into a peaceful country. It only shows that you are weak and leaves you in an even worse position. All wars in history are just examples of this.
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u/Ok-Somewhere9814 9h ago
Well, they threatened Denmark with invading Virgin Islands and it worked for them about a century ago…
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u/Zeduxx 9h ago
And then one of the island's was turned into a pedophile resort for billionares #NeverAgain.
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u/plumzki 9h ago
Well duh, where else you gna fuck underage virgins? It's in the name. (/S because I feel like it's needed these days)
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u/ItsSchmidtyC 9h ago
I didn't say threatening never works. Clearly it is working for Trump. But appeasement never works in the long run. Other nations need to call his bluff, just like China did with the tariff scuffle. Trump quickly backed down from his bluster. Europe needs to do the same.
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u/Gogs85 9h ago
You’d think that was a lesson properly learned from history eh?
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u/ShowMeYourPapers United Kingdom 9h ago
You need schools for history to be taught. The USA doesn't have schools, just warehouses the parents send their kids to to get shot.
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u/geostrofico Portugal 9h ago
we should accept the tariffs and block all US tech firms from Europe.
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u/Jisgsaw 9h ago
You don't even have to go that far.
Just sell US bonds and stop doing transactions in dollar. The US would fold in 5min.
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u/Kriss3d 9h ago
Making the Euro the reserve currency would be a more solid step since the euro isnt depending on one countrys stability.
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u/WholeFactor 8h ago
100%.
We do an awful lot for the US. They're very ungrateful and every MAGA voter deserve what's coming for them
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u/ikebears 4h ago
Some of us are grateful. In fact a lot of us are. If I had the money I would move to a diff country. It’s a sad thing to admit but I’m no longer a proud American. Haven’t been for years now
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u/Comfortable-Bonus421 9h ago
That’s the main reason for them invading Iraq. They were going to stop using the USD in their oil industry.
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u/Kriss3d 9h ago
The real big problem with that is that theres no country in the western hemisphere that isnt running entirely off Microsoft at this point.
Sadly.
Theres a saying here in Denmark amongst us techies:
If Trump decides to make MS close danish accounts at 8 o clock.
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u/CompactOwl 8h ago
To be fair. That would be a massive declaration of war and more than enough reason to seize every us controlled patent or property in Europe.
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u/Big-Conflict-4218 9h ago
How about introducing Schengen entry restrictions? Reduce it from 90 days to 30 days per 180 day period
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u/vivaaprimavera 8h ago
The EU has to press very very hard on Portugal (and countries with similar schemes) to revoque the golden visas, stop issuing them and finish their (actually our...) "digital nomad" tax breaks.
Portugal is heavily invested (reasons are a long story) in the above programs and they allow to bypass those restrictions.
It's useless to implement such restrictions when gaps are wide open.
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u/shaun2312 9h ago
Time to isolate the US economy and break dependencies.
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u/QuirkyWish3081 United Kingdom 9h ago
This is the trouble friend. I think we got so far up their ass it’s going to take a crane to pull us out. Give it time though. And plenty of lube.
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u/Master_Trust_636 8h ago
Haha. Spot on! Im ready to rip the band aid. Anything to get away from the orange piss stain.
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u/insidiouslybleak Canada 7h ago
So far up their ass that this Canadian, grandchild of enthusiast monarchists, raised on an absurdist combination of Monty Python and BBC, is feeling betrayed in ways I doubt I’ll get over.
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u/CaptainRAVE2 8h ago
Europe should never have become so dependent on everyone else.
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u/Psephological 9h ago
So the punishment for compliance is the same as the punishment for noncompliance.
Sun Tzu this is not.
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u/justbecauseyoumademe The Netherlands 9h ago
Yeah dude! Tax your own people more
Keep shooting into that foot harder!
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u/Politicsboringagain 9h ago edited 8h ago
He is. But morons here don't understand that prices going up are directly because of his tariffs.
Hell, a bunch only now realize that his no tax on tips is just a portion of that tips or overtime income.
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u/grafknives 9h ago
Oh. We are back at tariffs?
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u/cccxxxzzzddd 9h ago
As a tool of warfare not “justice” for trade deficits, as claimed
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u/Leptictidium87 9h ago
By now, I'm far beyond giving a damn. I have very little desire for our economy to take a hit, but I have even less desire to spend the rest of our lives cowering in the shadow of blackmail.
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u/Nuthetes 8h ago
yep, it is nearing the time when we need to cut ties with America. Just cut ties, close all US bases etc.
Actually closing US bases is a solid card. Israel wouldnt like that as America wouldnt be able to defend them.
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u/IvanStarokapustin 9h ago
Someone didn’t get enough attention so he’s acting out again. Did they pack his Ritalin in the diaper bag?
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u/AnonymusNauta 9h ago
The EU should ban US social media in response.
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u/ChoosenUserName4 European Union 8h ago
Just start taxing Amazon real good, and delete Facebook and Twitter from European soil.
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u/LocalHyperBadger 5h ago
Unironically imagine how much greater life could be if all social media went away.
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u/ender_tll 9h ago
He can go with the tariffs if he wants to. Don't care. It will affect some businesses that in Europe can now go to Mercosur.
Plus his tariffs will hit mostly Americans.
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u/brakes4birds United States of America 9h ago
Yep. He’s continuing to blackmail our allies whilst simultaneously fucking over American citizens by punishing us and isolating us. We knew he was a traitorous, narcissistic sociopath 5 years ago, but our propagandized main stream media has sucessfully indoctrinated 1/3 of our country. Don’t let him have any power, Europe. Cut off his narcissistic supply. Do what you need to do and take care of yourselves and your people.
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u/Wadarkhu England 9h ago
How about we punish the US and ban every US citizen including the administration from setting foot on European soil or using any of our airports? How about we take control of their companies they put here, turn them into ones that actually comply with our laws and pay taxes. How about the US just fuck off.
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u/Dry_Yogurt2458 United Kingdom 8h ago
Fragment NATO. Crash the US economy. Alienate the US
Putin must be proud of his star asset
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u/jaywastaken eriovI’d etôC 9h ago
Oh no he's going to tax Americans more. Who gives a fuck at this point.
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u/Psephological 9h ago
Also note that this moron is resorting to tariffs than anything military.
Keep moving troops into Greenland.
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u/NovaDarkFox Europe 9h ago
Could his stance have changed? Previously, he stated he would take it even by force (militarily), but now he seems to be shifting toward trade leverage.
Perhaps the soldiers Europe sent did have an impact on his decision.
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u/wgszpieg Lubusz (Poland) 9h ago
See? Everybody knew that negotiating the previous time was pointless.
Just bring those tariffs on, because even if the EU were to give in now, in a month it'll be something else he wants or tariffs.
Better to bite the bullet now than wait
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u/Sriber ⰈⰅⰏⰎⰡ ⰒⰋⰂⰀ | Mors Russiae, dolor Americae 9h ago
We should punish anyone who supports annexation of Greenland.
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u/Boundish91 Norway 9h ago
How about we demand that the US pay their debt for once?
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u/arty714 7h ago
AFAIK, that's not quite how it works. The bonds have a date at which they must be repaid (10 years?), and that is constantly happening... by issuing new bonds to cover the additional interests. The solution is much simpler: stop buying new US-bonds. The price will skyrocket just the same.
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u/bernieth 9h ago
A lifelong abuser and narcissist is handed the keys to the most powerful nation in the world .. what happens next?
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u/kevfefe69 9h ago
Well, in case you missed it, Canada started mending trade relations with China in an attempt to diversify trade away from the US.
Tariffs and stupid threats did this.
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u/Thunderbird_Anthares Czech Republic 9h ago
literally couldnt give a shit anymore - it doesnt impact us nearly as hard as he thinks it does
he can go F himself with a red hot rake, and entire EU should deploy troops to Greenland - thats the least we can do as a proper statement
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u/ItIsTooMuchForMe 9h ago
Huge backwards from an invasion to that old good tarrif game. Let’s just destroy the remaining strand between us, honestly, I don’t care anymore. I am curious though, if Russia and China don’t back the annexation, he will punish them too or only Europe?
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u/Far_Pomegranate_818 9h ago
So Trump Will tarif the rest of the world, and 70% of his own population?
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u/michel_yihaa 8h ago
Dear Americans, when are you finally going to do something about this idiot? I know there is like 23% voters fot this maniak, but Come on. The biggest joke? He's harming the USA the most. We (= the rest of the world) will never ever trust american politics again because of your worthless political system where an idiot can win and " take it all" . End then procees with threathening the whole world, just because. So it is costing you trust, Trade deals, influence in the world and more. You are sinking in a swamp and you do nothing about it?
Why? How?
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u/dustofdeath 9h ago
He doesn't even bother hiding he is a dictator anymore.
Peoples Republic of America.
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u/RebelliousInNature 9h ago
Okay. Go for it. We don’t care if you make our shit more expensive for your consumers.
What else ya got, chump?
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u/DhulKarnain Croatia 9h ago
everyone of you American redditors who are reading this and who didn't bother to go vote a year ago, this is your fault. you unleashed this monster the second time around and you are directly responsible for the rest of the world now having two Putins. you are shit people.
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u/runawayasfastasucan 8h ago
I talked with a f* political science student who didn't go vote this second time. Incomprehensible.
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u/Kasta4711bort 9h ago
This is a weak move. In my opinion, his feet are getting cold and now he is just blustering
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u/Uberduck333 9h ago
For fucks sake, just get on with it. Impose tariffs on absolutely everything from every country in the world and shut up about it. I’m sure the American citizens will gladly welcome absolutely everything they buy going up in price to appease the orange overlords tyrannical raging.
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u/zwd_2011 9h ago
This so funny. Bullies gonna bully.
Giving in didn't help. It made things worse. He needs the proverbial middel finger. He and his sponsors.
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u/MaplewoodRabbit 4h ago
As a Canadian, I would gladly suffer through more tariffs from the United States rather than betray an ally. Fuck the US.
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u/Turbulent-Watch-1889 9h ago
This has only two conclusions: the world will eventually turn against and isolate the United States… or Trump will die and it will go back to being normal.
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u/dustofdeath 9h ago
There is enough damage done to last decades with or without him.
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u/MrLeureduthe 8h ago
There's no "going back to normal" anytime soon. Probably in most people's lifetime.
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u/myyfeathers 8h ago
Trump is just a figurehead, unfortunately. Neo-cons and Christian nationalists have been orchestrating this for decades. There will always be some other asshole republican who they consider appointed by God to rule his chosen land and (white) people. Our entire system needs to be gutted, and I think that’ll happen a lot faster if the rest of the world stops playing ball with the orange sack of flesh.
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u/throwaway20231203 7h ago
Americans still think tarrifs are a recurring fine on other countries.
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u/Lord_Master_Dorito 9h ago
Right, everyone should simultaneously make deals with China like Canada did to piss him off
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u/berejser These Islands 7h ago
Instead of reciprocal tariffs Europe needs to be considering targeted sanctions on individuals spearheading the invasion plan, Trump included. There are a lot of assets that could be seized, a lot of golf courses that would make excellent affordable housing developments.
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u/bummed_athlete 5h ago
I just wanted to point out that the US Supreme Court is set to rule on Trump's tariffs. They may rule against it which would potentially mean he couldn't do this. Only Congress is supposed to have such power.
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u/Fluffy-Republic8610 9h ago
Americans taking about Greenland reminds me of that quote from Colonel strasser in Casablanca
"We Germans must get used to all climates, from Russia to the Sahara"
https://www.yarn.co/yarn-clip/f6df2113-7caa-401d-bbf6-0b168afdbc1b#rIDzonoK.reddit
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u/wordswillneverhurtme European Federation 9h ago
he's pushing the line thinking we'll all bow down to him
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u/JG1313 9h ago
Time to elaborate a European containment plan against the USA. Some point out the sell of US treasure bonds, but we could go further and denounced all debt contracted to US economical actors, or seize US assets in Europe. Trump won’t stopped at tariffs to intimidate us, we must be ready to strike back, and strike back hard.
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u/rogozh1n 9h ago
America has fallen under the control of few mega billionaires who want to remake it to increase their relative wealth to the rest of us.
We have seen similar folly in Brexit and some eastern European nations. Can you stay strong and protect your democracies where we failed? Please do.
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u/Efficient_Age 9h ago edited 8h ago
time to drop US bonds, China have been selling it for a loss in the past 9 months already.
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u/Magik160 7h ago
And NATO will drop the bonds protecting our 38,000,000,000,000 in debt causing the dollar to be as worthless as wallpaper and collapsing our economy even faster than he is doing by himself.
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u/qwerty_1965 7h ago
Europe alone has about 3 trillion in US securities, AKA debt. Sell it and let rip.
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u/zubairhamed Berlin (Germany) 5h ago
Dear Americans: Please vote wisely in the future. I'm kinda tired that a few rando american states decides my news cycle every 4 years.
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